Award-winning journalist, best-selling author, and podcast creator, Jo Piazza, joins me to answer the question—Is texting ruining the art of friendship communication? Together we make the case for old-school phone calls and low-key hangs. Stick around and hear why!
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Meet Jo Piazza
Jo Piazza is a bestselling author, podcast creator, and award-winning journalist. She is the bestselling author of many critically acclaimed novels and nonfiction books including We Are Not Like Them, Charlotte Walsh Likes to Win, The Knockoff, and How to Be Married. A former editor, columnist, and travel writer with Yahoo, Current TV, and the Daily News (New York), her work has also appeared in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, New York Magazine, Glamour, Elle, Time, Marie Claire, The Daily Beast, and Slate. She holds an undergraduate degree from the University of Pennsylvania in economics and communication, a master’s in journalism from Columbia University, and a master’s in religious studies from New York University. Her latest podcasts are Under the Influence, She Wants More, and Wilder. Her latest co-authored novel with Christine Pride is You Were Always Mine.
Topics We Covered:
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- Why we both feel closer to friends when we’re speaking to them regularly on the phone, even for short periods of time. Phone calls are intimate!
- Jo reflects on why her piece about low-key hangs got shared so much. We think people are tired of elaborate, loud, and expensive outings. Keep it simple!
- Why we are on TikTok (we’re not totally sure)
- We discuss whether we’re supposed to warn friend we’re calling them.
- Are phone calls considered intrusive now?
- Jo hates texting because of how surface it can all be and how it keeps you glued to other apps. She’s tired of emojis. She wants real laughter!
- We both hate FaceTime. We prefer phone calls while walking or doing things around the house or while driving.
- The younger set loves FaceTime. (We agree this is 100% better than snaps of foreheads.)
- Talking on the phone is a muscle you have to keep using or it goes away.
- Jo hates voice memos and I love them. We both hate voicemail.
- Collaborating with close friends on work projects
We referenced two of Jo’s Substack pieces:
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